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Vilborn · Dec 30, 2007, 03:10 PM // 15:10

I was thinking about something like

[card]Glass Arrows[/card][card]Savage Shot[/card][card]Dual Shot[/card][card]Conjure Flame[/card]

or

[card]Brutal Weapon[/card] instead of Conjure

Need some help to make this work better - I've some heavy energy problems.

jaeharys targaryen · Dec 30, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilborn

I was thinking about something like

[card]Glass Arrows[/card][card]Savage Shot[/card][card]Dual Shot[/card][card]Conjure Flame[/card]

or

[card]Brutal Weapon[/card] instead of Conjure

Need some help to make this work better - I've some heavy energy problems.

a fad lately has been making use of point blank shot and zojun's shot. it allows for heavy dps without brutal or conjure, allows the use of nat stride, and can still be buffed up with brutal from an outside source. it does +100 on crits, sunders, etc. on a recurve bow vs. 60 al.
i'm a fan, but its not all that good because of the half range clause. but at the same time, you also still have room for savage or distracting.

The Real Roy Keane · Dec 30, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Bows are for interrupts and condition spread, not DPS.

Pyro maniac · Dec 30, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

That's pretty much a glass arrow spike in TA
forked arrow + glass arrows + brutal weapon

But bows aren't for DPS, mainly interupt and condition spread. Or sometimes ranger spike, but if you want DPS on a ranger you may want to use spear + pet.

jaeharys targaryen · Dec 30, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45

they are both right. i told you what to use, but i'm not reccomending it at all.

Scary Raebbit · Dec 30, 2007, 03:54 PM // 15:54

If you have energy issues, then just run Prep Shot Conjure Kindle with Interrupts.

But like stated before, Rangers are for disruption not DPS.

Sha Noran · Dec 30, 2007, 05:09 PM // 17:09

[skill]rampage as one[/skill][skill]hammer bash[/skill][skill]crushing blow[/skill][skill]bestial mauling[/skill]

Also, [skill]burning arrow[/skill] is about as close to decent bow DPS as Rangers really get.

Marverick · Dec 30, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

That's not really DPS, it's more of a spike. To put out consistent DPS you need an IAS. You could try [wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki] with [skill=text]Prepared Shot[/skill] and see where you go with that. I have a PvE-version of this that does around 70 DPS alone, maybe over 100 if you get some other ranged attackers in your party. It has no utility though so it wouldn't be of much use in PvP, damage is too low without the PvE skills.

[skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Prepared Shot[/skill][wiki]Weapon of Aggression[/wiki][skill]Needling Shot[/skill][wiki]Triple Shot[/wiki][skill]Dual Shot[/skill][skill]Forked Arrow[/skill][wiki]Ebon Battle Standard of Honor[/wiki]

[skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Vow of Strength[/skill][skill]Heket's Rampage[/skill] produces some nice numbers at the sake of being unstable with all the stuff that needs upkeep. Then you can take [skill]Throw Dirt[/skill] or [skill]Harrier's Grasp[/skill] or some other utility to complement your damage. You won't be able to interrupt with VoS, though...

Kindle/Conjure works somewhat decently in unorganized areas.
[skill]Conjure Flame[/skill][skill]Kindle Arrows[/skill][skill]Prepared Shot[/skill][skill]Needling Shot[/skill][skill]Concussion Shot[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Natural Stride[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Drop Concussion for [skill=text]Dual Shot[/skill] and DIstracting for [skill=text]Savage Shot[/skill] if you want more spiking.

Tyla · Dec 30, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

rangerspike/BA is quite nice, but then ranger DPS doesnt get far

horseradish · Dec 30, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

If you want a lot of DPS, role a trap ranger.

MBP · Dec 30, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

[skill]burning arrow[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]needling shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill] res

you can swap needling for [skill]mending touch[/skill] but that's better for pvp.

good dps and interrupting..degen wins!

Amy Awien · Dec 30, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

If you are looking for pure damage, a ranger's bow can rarely bring pain like their beast can with [wiki]Enraged Lunge[/wiki].

[skill]Enraged Lunge[/skill][skill]Predator's Pounce[/skill][skill]Poisonous Bite[/skill][skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Call of Haste[/skill][skill]Call of Protection[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

You can leave the bow home (and Rtw) and bring more beastpower, or you can swap Poisonous or P-Pounce for an interrupt. Whatever you change, EL likes 3 other recharging BM skills

Vilborn · Dec 31, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

Bows are for interrupts and condition spread, not DPS.

I know, I know, the point is they can do both if used properly. So far I think the best option would be

[card]Conjure Flame[/card][card]Punishing Shot[/card][card]Savage Shot[/card] [card]Distracting Shot[/card][card]Pin Down[/card]

and [card]Kindle Arrows[/card] or [card]Apply Poison[/card]

+ [card]Charm Animal[/card]

This is when you have a monk healing you of course, if not then add evading and self healing.

This might be kinda old-school build but it still works

Scary Raebbit · Dec 31, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilborn

I know, I know, the point is they can do both if used properly.

No, it does interrupt and condition spread great and its DPS is sub par.
Roll a Warrior if you want to DPS or do Burning Arrow.

Quaker · Dec 31, 2007, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

Bows are for interrupts and condition spread, not DPS.

And your purpose is to spread the BS around.

Aside from the fact that your statement is arguably incorrrect, the OP was asking about help with a DPS build. It just wastes forum space and people's time to go off-topic. It's quite possible that he has heard of that "urban myth" and may even agree with it.

Vilborn · Dec 31, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

No, it does interrupt and condition spread great and its DPS is sub par.
Roll a Warrior if you want to DPS or do Burning Arrow.

Nop. The build above does very nice dps.

GD Defender · Dec 31, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Burning Arrow on standard ranger bar please.

Stormlord Alex · Dec 31, 2007, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

And your purpose is to spread the BS around

I'ts only BS if it's not true.

Bows are bad at DPS. They can be used for churning it out, but... then you'd be stuck playing a gimped character that frankly sucks compared to other alternatives.

Sha Noran · Dec 31, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

The fact is, bows are bad at DPS. It's possible to design your whole skill bar to be full of buffs and additional damage, but the amount of effort it takes to make you even moderately damaging is a waste of time compared to the contribution you can make to the team with a little bit of interrupting skill. Sorry, but no matter how cool you might find it to have to try and find the energy and time to keep up a conjure and a prep while still pumping out attack skills, you're never going to be the type of DPS machine that a Warrior with an Axe and adrenaline attack skills is.

Your best bet with a bow is, as I stated, Burning Arrow.

[skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]burning arrow[/skill][skill]kindle arrows[/skill][skill]natural stride[/skill][skill]troll unguent[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

MBP · Dec 31, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

even better with apply poison